Missio 3

Posted by: Tom,

Time for my third post on the Missional Leadership Initiative. Let me make a disclaimer that none of what I have quoted here can be taken as 100% accurate. I may have misheard, miss-wrote, taken out of context, misinterpreted, extrapolated, or done any number of misdeeds to what was actually said.

This won't be my notes from our last meeting but I do want to write down a few of the highlights, or at least things that were especially helpful for me.


Reggie talked a lot about moving from one thing to another. He's hooked on it and most of our time together was spent talking about these major shifts. But he threw in a couple of smaller ones that I liked.

"Move from church as a noun to church as a verb." Okay, so that is obvious but then he constructed the sentence, "I church at work," and that kind of rattled around the brain a bit differently. We church, we don't go to church.

"The church doesn't have a mission, the mission has a church." I haven't thought that one through too much yet. It was about not bending God's heart to us, but our heart to God.

Reggie also talked about the siloing we do in our lives. We tend to have a politics silo, academic silo, health silo, church silo, etc. He drew this as vertical columns to represent how we often think this way. Pastors can especially silo their church world. He then erased the church silo and redrew it horizontally, cutting across all the other silos. Again, not exactly a new concept but a refreshing way to look at it for me.

"You don't motivate, you create an environment where people can follow their call." You probably have to do some motivating but we probably spend way too much time on it and neglect creating the environment altogether.


Reggie also threw in some good nuggets on timely topics.

On assessing - "Maturation, not participation. Participation does not mean maturation."

Debriefing - Reggie was big on this. We need to create a culture where our people are debriefed. (And yes, we've heard all the underwear jokes.) It helps us process what we experience and grow through them. We even need to give people an opportunity to debrief after our sermons. "What is the take away?" Learn from Larry King, Oprah, military, first responders.

Programs - So Reggie talks a lot about being people driven versus program driven. The program driven church has even become an archetype. Yet even if we aren't program driven we still have programs. Reggie said, "Think of programs as intentional processes." That's helpful for me. Keeps it from being the goal.

Leadership Development - "We train for tasks instead of movement leadership." I see a lot of potential for thought here. After we train people for all these tasks we promote them to leader. But he says they require different competencies. (Apostolic, entrepreneurial, developers.)

Game Changer - Going missional is a game changer. Therefore it is not incremental. "It's like working on your golf swing to perfect your tennis stroke." This is frightening.


Then there were just a few quotes that I thought were good.

"When did Jesus last change your mind?" I don't have anything to say about this but I love the question. Not sure I like the answer.

"No drive-byes." Every church should have this posted in their board room.

"People don't grow in artificial environments." He was talking about the need to be life-centric.

"You cannot have a missional church without missional people." I understand but where does that leave us?

I don't remember exactly how he said it but he commented on seeker sensitive churches and pointed out that scripture says that God is the seeker. So I guess in that sense we should all be seeker sensitive in our worship.

All in all it was a great time together. I learned a lot but it will take awhile to process it all. Next one is in September but I'll be meeting with my cohort several times in between. And of course, it will take months to get Steve and Dan straightened out on all this stuff. :) Okay, so they're thinking the same.


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Good stuff, Tom.

Question - does this part:

"Move from church as a noun to church as a verb." Okay, so that is obvious but then he constructed the sentence, "I church at work," and that kind of rattled around the brain a bit differently. We church, we don't go to church.

...change any of your thinking in this post and specifically its comment thread? Just curious.
lol - I know which post you were talking about before I even went there.

But actually I don't think it does. You reminded me of something else that came up and that is that we only significantly grow in community. We still need that "to be known" element.

What it does challenge is what we have come to think of as church. At least the form it takes.
I know, Tom. I am still struggling with "accountability." I think that's the last wall that needs to fall, really.
Yeah, I accept that.

Can you understand (I think Dan would) that the eternal rebel in me still bucks a little (a lot...a LOT) at the thought of "accountability?"

"Can you dig it? I knew that you could..."

Maybe that's why I gravitate to you and Dan...Stuck in the middle of nowhere (Steelers Wheel song) I know that someone raised in South Africa plus someone who's converted post-mullet (ahem - you know who! :o) "get" me, even though we're all in the Midwest, more than the people I find in my immediate locale, and I submit myself to your inspection because I trust the outcome.

Does that make sense?

At all?
Hey... I resemble way too many of these remarks. I didn't even know this was still a functioning blog!
Jim,

I would say that the accountability thing is a struggle for most people. It takes a ton of courage to really trust someone at that level because most of us have been burned by it in the past. It has also been pushed in a systematic way and that never works. I remember back in grad school when they assigned a mentor/accountability partner and that went nowhere. I think it needs to be an natural relationship but even then it is up to us to take that step to add the accountability factor. We also know that ideally the accountability group would be 3 or 4 people but I think we would be making a good start with just one accountability partner, someone who really knows us and feels close enough to ask the tough questions. It's hard.


Dan,

Brilliance only needs to post a couple of times a year. :) And another thing, since the magi all had mullets (check any picture) I think you should grow your's back. I know it is there waiting to be reborn.

Tom
 
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